Thread: OK ....Maybe a House Building Thread

Waspy,

It would probably be fine if windows were non-opening but and that is a big but you really should be asking the powers that be. Especially now that your plot is on the main road and not next to a rice paddy. Usually there is never a problem with this regulations unless someone complains.

I once did a major renovation in BKK without a permit. It cost me a bottle of black label for that transgression, unfortunately things are a-changin.

Good to see you are feeling better.

Originally Posted by bankao dreamer

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Dear Wasp
our house is a tad close to the rice field at the back.

How close is " a tad close " ?



Wops

Originally Posted by BKKBILL

Waspy,

It would probably be fine if windows were non-opening but and that is a big but you really should be asking the powers that be.

Hello there Wasp old thing.

I agree with Bill on this. If you were building a house for yourself then it's not such an issue, but this is a house being built specifically to be sold. That means that a purchaser will probably have to go to a bank to finance the purchase and because of that everything should be in order as otherwise the bank might be reluctant to lend on it.

The main purpose here is to sell the land. The choice is between selling it as an empty building plot, or developing it yourself and sell it as a new built house.

I can't see that it's going to make much of a difference to a prospective purchaser if the house is 8 or 9 metres wide. Build it at 8 metres wide and use the money saved on the build costs to stick in a decent kitchen and doing the bathrooms well. I reckon that those will be a far greater lure to someone in the market for a new house than the detraction of what the house could have been with an extra metre.

Perhaps the best idea is to come up with two designs, one 8m wide and one 9m. Talk with the folks who sign off on all this stuff and then go with whatever they suggest.

Just thinking out loud here - this place is single storey right? What about a solid wall where you need to and then use roof lights/skylights in those areas instead?

Originally Posted by Roobarb

Originally Posted by BKKBILL

Waspy,

It would probably be fine if windows were non-opening but and that is a big but you really should be asking the powers that be.

Hello there Wasp old thing.

I agree with Bill on this. If you were building a house for yourself then it's not such an issue, but this is a house being built specifically to be sold. That means that a purchaser will probably have to go to a bank to finance the purchase and because of that everything should be in order as otherwise the bank might be reluctant to lend on it.

The main purpose here is to sell the land. The choice is between selling it as an empty building plot, or developing it yourself and sell it as a new built house.

I can't see that it's going to make much of a difference to a prospective purchaser if the house is 8 or 9 metres wide. Build it at 8 metres wide and use the money saved on the build costs to stick in a decent kitchen and doing the bathrooms well. I reckon that those will be a far greater lure to someone in the market for a new house than the detraction of what the house could have been with an extra metre.

Perhaps the best idea is to come up with two designs, one 8m wide and one 9m. Talk with the folks who sign off on all this stuff and then go with whatever they suggest.

Just thinking out loud here - this place is single storey right? What about a solid wall where you need to and then use roof lights/skylights in those areas instead?

Hello Rooby .

It's nice to look on Teakdoor and see that it's you . Sensible in brief spells between being nuts .

I've had a terrible day Roobs . Absolutely terrible . A day when I successfully removed a plumbing section that had been defying everybody . A weird French piece of iron and brass . There was no water flowing behind it and I worked there for an hour .
Went upstairs where " HORRORS " I cracked a piece of glass that was in a Leadlight window !!
And went back downstairs to find a flood from that apparatus when nothing had been happening for ages !
I don't do things like that . I just don't . I'm careful . And when I flicked paint onto a car I just wanted to cry .

I DON'T DO THOSE THINGS .

Your comment about the house --- of course makes sense . But I do think that one metre can make a big difference . One metre in width is adding 18 sq metres and there are whole families in Japan living in 22 sq metre apartments !!! I stayed in one . Unbelievably tidy and minimalist . Having a separate room just for sleeping is unimaginably luxurious for those people . So I think 18 extra sq metres is desirable .

You make sense . BKKBILL makes sense . But it would be interesting to get a ruling on this . If you are the neighbour then what odds does it make to be looking at opaque brick or opaque glass ?

Could the whole WALL be glass ???? With the weigh carried on steel beams . Or Roman Kings .

Skylights ? Even clear skylights make me more claustrophobic than an opaque window .

All just ruminations .

Or Roobyations .



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Wasp
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.How do you fix leadlight windows ? Oh the depression .
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It does sound a bit of a tough day Wasp.

Here's something to, well, it won't take your mind of things but it has tranquil music at least...

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..... and my knees hurt .




Wimp

Actually, you know on YouTube you get the column of related clips on the right hand side?

Well on the lead light fixing one there was a whole bunch of other clips about stained glass windows and the like, all but the fourth one down which seemed a little out of place.

I'm not exactly sure why it caught my attention?

Good to see you have projects going, Wasp...Even though you had a bad day...

"Wipe your hand across your mouth, and laugh;

The worlds revolve like ancient women

Gathering fuel in vacant lots"...

That's an interesting quote BBoy and I do appreciate the thought and encouragement but I don't understand what it's saying .... partly because my mind is a bit depressed while being full of attractive female thingies in mud and Whitstable Bay Pale Ale .

And my knees are still hurting .

But thank you for that perplexing thought .



Waslpsed .

Originally Posted by Wasp

Now I wish everyone had Sketchup because you could walk through and around and inside this design .
Problem is it can only be sent through email ..... unless Roob knows different .... ly.
It was when I had Rooby's design to this state that I saw I wouldn't want to follow the design though I appreciate the time spent doing it .

For some reason, my architect did not have a program that allowed us to "walk through" the design of the house. I think that is a great feature, and can quickly reveal serious "liveability" and "flow" problems. Think of the feng shui app too. While it is nice to have doors and windows, you can have too many doors. If you think you do, then you probably do. Maybe time to rethink a little.

Here's a simple plan with no corridors and not too many doors. A 2-bedroomed bungalow on an external footprint of 10m x 13m. Internal area is approximately 121 square meters.



It has a semi-open plan dining area (for farangs) at the back, which could be used as an extension of the living area if desired.

One bedroom has an en-suite bathroom, with the main bathroom (shower, toilet and basin) being accessed from the living room. Bathrooms are about 3.5m2 each.

It's just an idea of a layout. Room sizes could be adjusted to suit.

Thank you for taking the time Neverna.

Problem here is the plot is just 12 metres wide and I'm being told I have to be 2 metres in from a boundary if I'm having windows .

Which gives me only 8 metres of width where your plan has 10 metres .

I'll draw this up though and make it 8 metres and see how it looks .

Thank you .



Wasp

Originally Posted by Wasp

That's an interesting quote BBoy and I do appreciate the thought and encouragement but I don't understand what it's saying ....

Sorry, I`ve always enjoyed that image from Preludes by TS Eliot...

To me, it means when things aren`t going too well, just have a laugh at them, chill out and have a beer...It has been this way forever...Learn to enjoy it, or, at least, laugh in its face...

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

To me, it means when things aren`t going too well, just have a laugh at them, chill out and have a beer...It has been this way forever...Learn to enjoy it, or, at least, laugh in its face...

I don't and can't think like that .
I can't laugh at something going wrong when I made it go wrong and it's in someone else's house .

But I do have an avenue of relief . I just think how something else much MUCH worse hasn't happened !
Broken windows will get fixed but I could have had a flood of water bringing down a ceiling ... and I didn't . So it's a question of scale .
Once I was driving in Ireland and at a junction I chose Left and some distance down the road drove into an abandoned cart . Damage and money . The normal thing is to regret making the choice of turning Left but then again if I had turned Right maybe I would have driven over a quarry edge !!!

Better to be positive as you say BB ............ but I'm pissed at myself for even making those mistakes .


Wasp

Neverna;

How about 9 meters, Wasp? Perhaps you could have windows on three sides of the house (back, front and the left hand side of my plan) and only square glass blocks for light on the other side (right hand side of my plan). The kitchen, dining room, living room and the front bedroom would all have windows. The front bedroom and kitchen would also have the square glass blocks for extra lighting on the right hand side of the house.
Oh, one more thing. Have you thought about solar light tubes? ]


Considering we've had friction you're being very helpful Neverna .

So .... I would love to have a ruling on all of this just for clarity but I don't think there is any one place to get such a ruling .
And I'm interested because of another house apart from this one .
For the sake of consideration though ...... how WOULD a window of frosted glass be ruled to be any different from a solid wall ? Sense says to me they are the same .

ALSO ...... imagine putting up very modern ideas of whole walls made of opaque glass ! Very creative . Very modern . And as non-intrusive as a solid wall would be .
It's only a thought because I imagine such walls would be one terrific target for the catapults the Thais love so much .

I mused your 9 metre thought though . My original wish was for one metre setbacks on both sides. Now though I realise that you only get maybe an 80 cm roof overhang in that way. Which isn't much . I may be restricted to 8 metres for reasons of overhangs as well as regulatory strictures.

I need to draw your plan really and make it 3D before I can properly visualise things .

And solar light tubes ? Well it looks clever but it's a build cost that I wouldn't want to include . If it became necessary I'd prefer a skylight .
But commonsense says to me there's no reason for rejecting frosted glass .

Do orbortors possess commonsense ? I'm sure Bahts could purchase some .



Wasp

Originally Posted by Wasp

Better to be positive as you say BB ............ but I'm pissed at myself for even making those mistakes .

Oh, I hear you loud and clear, Wasp...My thinking is only theory...But I'd have probably broken a few things before I'd calmed down!...Heh...