Thread: Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I wonder how much damage this will cause an airline. Fukked if I'd wanna fly with anyone who doesn't check passports.

That's the immigration services job, not the airlines'.

Actually most airports or airlines now do a secondary boarding pass/passport check before boarding.

But that isn't going to spot a fake passport unless it's a bad fake.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by Fluke

They may have simple not been able to fly the plane and crashed it accidentally into the sea

May be the sea was their intended target? You numpty.

Why would someone want to attack the sea ?
Revenge for the Tsunami ?

Originally Posted by koman

Originally Posted by Fluke

Another possible explanation for the plane turning around and not making contact with the ground could be that theb two passengers were indeed terrorists who had gotton into the cockpit with the intention of taking ovee the plane and using it as a weapon to attack a target, 9/11 style .
They may have simple not been able to fly the plane and crashed it accidentally into the sea

That would be a possible explanation amongst many......it can't be ruled out... as terrorism/hijack has been mentioned several times already.

And if it was a hijack gone wrong, that would explain why no one has claimed responsibility

Originally Posted by klong toey

I have been on plenty of flights that have been delayed because of luggage being removed from the aircraft passengers have not boarded the flight.

As I have. Most on flights with a group of Chinese tourists. They have a habit of getting lost in the airport. Side tracked in duty free shops or wandering around trying to read all those not in Chinese signs.

And a Ram Air Turbine.

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

Air transit hold the record for the longest glide by an airliner. Using the wrong part on an engine fuel system, drained the fuel tanks and it landed in the Azores.

No, it was a fuel leak, and they opened the cross-feed valve to balance the tanks not knowing about it.

Can't believe they tried to blame the pilots for it!

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Originally Posted by Fluke

The Fuel on the plane powers the radio communications with land.

Ermmmm.... no....it doesn't.

I believe you are right Bobcock, I think Fluke is thinking of the propeller driven aircraft which either have or did have this system.

The Malaysian authorities didnt check whether the PPs were stolen
Malaysia may have reputation as being a a place where you can board aeroplanes with ease on stolen PPs .
The question is : Would they have gotton through at their intended destination on the stolen PPs ?
If they definitely would have been caught at their intended destination with the stolen passports , you could assume that they didnt intend to arrive there .

Originally Posted by Ronin

Terrorism doesn't seem likely as neither China nor Malaysia are terrorist targets ....

Kunming China train station a week or so ago. Twenty-nine killed and over 130 more injured by multiple knife-wielding attackers in a coordinated attack. Sounds pretty much like a terrorist attack to me. Blamed on Xinjiang separatists; four terrorists killed, one captured, five or six more escaped.

And dont forget that after the M.A plane lost contact with base i.e presumably after the problem(s) began that the nearest other aircraft, when asked to try to gain contact - did get contact with the troubled plane only to hear static and muffled voices.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Originally Posted by Ronin

Terrorism doesn't seem likely as neither China nor Malaysia are terrorist targets ....

Kunming China train station a week or so ago. Twenty-nine killed and over 130 more injured by multiple knife-wielding attackers in a coordinated attack. Sounds pretty much like a terrorist attack to me. Blamed on Xinjiang separatists; four terrorists killed, one captured, five or six more escaped.

Yes but the point is where airliners are involved it is usually the US and its allies that are targets, besides as has been stated repeatedly terrorists would most likely have claimed responsibility by now don't you think?

Originally Posted by ossierob

And dont forget that after the M.A plane lost contact with base i.e presumably after the problem(s) began that the nearest other aircraft, when asked to try to gain contact - did get contact with the troubled plane only to hear static and muffled voices.

Accepted but there could be a multitude of reasons for this.

Originally Posted by Ronin

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Originally Posted by Ronin

Terrorism doesn't seem likely as neither China nor Malaysia are terrorist targets ....

Kunming China train station a week or so ago. Twenty-nine killed and over 130 more injured by multiple knife-wielding attackers in a coordinated attack. Sounds pretty much like a terrorist attack to me. Blamed on Xinjiang separatists; four terrorists killed, one captured, five or six more escaped.

Yes but the point is where airliners are involved it is usually the US and its allies that are targets, besides as has been stated repeatedly terrorists would most likely have claimed responsibility by now don't you think?

Don't know. In the past, it indeed has generally been the US or its allies who have been the targets of airline terrorism, but the face of terrorism does change. As far as I know, neither Xinjiang separatists, nor any other groups, have yet claimed responsibility for the Kunming slaughter.

If Thai or Vietnamese fishermen found wreckage it's more likely they will be looting and stripping bodies if watches and jewellery than calling it in.

ronin

Terrorism doesn't seem likely as neither China nor Malaysia are terrorist targets

for what its worth

In Taiwan, the head of national intelligence said a telephone call had been received on March 1 suggesting that an extremist Muslim group from China’s ethnic Uighur minority would mount a terrorist attack on Beijing International Airport – but added he did not believe the call was linked to the vanished airliner.

Police told local media the caller had rung from the southern Chinese city of Guangdong. He had spoken first in French, claiming to be an anti-terrorism official from that country, and then switched to the southern Chinese dialect of Cantonese. But Tsai De-sheng, the head of Taiwan’s National Security Bureau, told state media he did not believe the warning was “highly correlated” with the vanished airliner.

Similarly, a Chinese Internet activist and journalist based in New York said he had received an email claiming the plane had been attacked in protests at Chinese “oppression and persecution” of its Uighur minority. The email, sent from an untraceable hushmail account, said the attack was also a personal act of revenge against the Malaysian government, which has “cruelly persecuted me before.”

Wen Yunchao said he had given the email to U.S. authorities, but had received an avalanche of attacks by email and Twitter for releasing it to the media.

In February, Human Rights Watch criticized Malaysia for repatriating to China six Uighur refugees seeking asylum there, saying it had put the men’s lives in danger; Malaysia also sent back 11 Uighurs in 2011.

Earlier this month, knife-wielding assailants killed 29 people at a railway station in the southwestern Chinese city of Kunming, in one of the worst terrorist attacks in the country’s history. The Chinese government said the perpetrators were separatist Uighurs from the western province of Xinjiang.

Nevertheless, to move from knife attacks to international terrorism and downing airliners would be a massive leap for Uighur extremists, who are not thought to have strong links to the global jihadist movement.

Debris may be from missing Malaysia Airlines flight - The Washington Post

Originally Posted by Lostandfound

If Thai or Vietnamese fishermen found wreckage it's more likely they will be looting and stripping bodies if watches and jewellery than calling it in.

If the plane flew into the sea at speed I doubt they'll be finding bodies.

Originally Posted by Ronin

Yes but the point is where airliners are involved it is usually the US and its allies that are targets, besides as has been stated repeatedly terrorists would most likely have claimed responsibility by now don't you think?

According to one journalist at yesterday's press conference, they have.

But then a lot of groups will claim responsibility to get a name for themselves.

Irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Fluke

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by Fluke

They may have simple not been able to fly the plane and crashed it accidentally into the sea

May be the sea was their intended target? You numpty.

Why would someone want to attack the sea ?
Revenge for the Tsunami ?

Fluke I asked you a question about the documentary you watched. Was it Air Canada?