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    Bias in Media Shock, Outrage Ensues.

    How's that for breaking news then? Funny thing about these 'media bias' studies, the results tend to be indicative of and converse to the political leanings of the author or institution conducting them.

    Of course I say that without any shread of evidence other than my own empirical experiences but that's because I'm, ummm... biased?

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    Actors and journalists tend to be liberals, that's a fact!

    -texpatriate

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    Which doesn't mean this will necessary influence their acting or writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texpatriate View Post
    Actors and journalists tend to be liberals, that's a fact!
    Statistically, most are.

    And the Liberals are a part of the establishment: they support large corporations, the military-industrial complex, interventionist foreign policy, just like those on the right.

    Liberals and Conservative are: Neo-Liberals.

    One in the same.

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    In comments overheard on an open microphone between morning television interviews, including one with Fox, the top U.S. diplomat said: "My Fox guys, I love every single one of them."
    Rice 'loves' Fox News; CBS anchor 'decent guy' - CNN.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    And the Liberals are a part of the establishment: they support large corporations, the military-industrial complex, interventionist foreign policy, just like those on the right.Liberals and Conservative are: Neo-Liberals.One in the same.
    Good point, but I would also add "neo-conservatives" to the terminology, the ex-conservatives who have shed their traditional principles (limited government, balanced budgets, etc...) and put Woodrow Wilson to shame in their zeal to "democratize" the planet. That whole "conservative-liberal" dichotomy is a creation of the U.S. media to improve ratings for brainless talk shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floorpotato
    I would also add "neo-conservatives" to the terminology, the ex-conservatives who have shed their traditional principles
    the same could be said about many liberals who became late 20th century democrats.

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    star news (ok not the US media) had a newsbrief just before 19:00 in which the four stories consisted of...

    1. a 'terrorist' leader is located in pakistan----and this is known because a captured 'terrorist' said so...on tape no less.
    2. a couple of 'terrorists' were killed in the phillipines.
    3. something about the historical 'hero' edmund hilary
    4. and finally a story about how the caring govt. saved a bird.

    and then it was repeated (verbatim!) an hour later.


    and then on CNBC at about 21:00 they reported that the navy is denying that one of their ships was attacked. NBC isn't reporting that it happened, they're just reporting that the navy is denying it happened.

    “Remember our boys on the Malabar front! And the sailors in the Floating Fortresses! Just think what they have to put up with.”
    Quote Originally Posted by texpatriate
    Actors and journalists tend to be liberals, that's a fact! -texpatriate
    really? what's your source on actors and their political ideology? or did you hear somebody mention it at the coffee shop?

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    PARKERSBURG, W.Va. — Former POW Jessica Lynch became a mother on Friday, giving birth to a girl whom she named in honor of a fallen comrade.Dakota Ann Robinson was delivered by Caesarean section at a local hospital at 5:10 p.m. The infant weighed 7 pounds, 10 ounces, said Lynch's publicist, Aly Goodwin Gregg.
    "She's fabulous and fat," Gregg said. "She's beautiful."
    Lynch and her boyfriend, Wes Robinson, named Dakota in honor of Lynch's friend, Army Spc. Lori Piestewa of Tuba City, Ariz., who was the first woman to be killed in combat in Iraq. Piestewa's middle name was Ann, and Dakota which means friendship or ally, Gregg said.
    Lynch and Piestewa served together in the 507th Maintenance Company from Fort Bliss, Texas. They were roommates there and tentmates in Iraq. Piestewa died and Lynch was captured when their unit was ambushed on March 23, 2003, near Nasiriyah.
    'Absolutely beautiful'
    Lynch suffered two spinal fractures, nerve damage and a shattered right arm, right foot and left leg when her Humvee crashed during the firefight.
    The story of her capture and dramatic nighttime rescue made her an instant celebrity. The 23-year-old Palestine native is now a sophomore at West Virginia University-Parkersburg. Gregg said she probably will take a semester off or take online courses.
    While Lynch still has health problems, Gregg said she came through the C-section "like a champ."
    "Jessie's doing great, the baby did great," she said. "She's easy to love, absolutely beautiful."
    Ex-POW Jessica Lynch has 7-lb. baby girl - U.S. Life - MSNBC.com



    so much for the 'liberal media'.

    Some time after Lynch's rescue, several sources alleged the story of Lynch's rescue was distorted and exaggerated by the United States government in an effort to undercut public resistance to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Iraqi doctors at the hospital in question claimed Lynch was well cared for by hospital personnel and virtually unguarded at the time that she was rescued by American forces; rather, Lynch's "rescue" was a publicity stunt that was staged, and the subsequent news reports were carefully controlled propaganda, drawing on the captivity narrative genre.[citation needed] Though Pentagon statements claimed that Lynch emptied her rifle fighting off her attackers, later reports and Lynch herself indicated that this was not the case; in fact her rifle jammed on the first round and she did not offer any resistance to her capture. The story is now believed to have stemmed from the mistranslation of an intercepted Iraqi message which referred to one of her male fellow soldiers.
    Amended reports by The Washington Post, which initially reported dramatic stories of Lynch's ordeal, indicated that U.S. officials made no attempt to downplay exaggerated or incorrect reports in the media. The dramatic rescue, with heavy force ready for an unknown situation, was videotaped at the request of military public affairs, who knew this would be a popular story. Iraqi doctors caring for Lynch told reporters that they gave Lynch the best care possible while she was kept at the hospital, and that they often bought juice that she asked for using their own money. They also said that they were not only frightened by the dramatic way US forces held them at gunpoint during the rescue, but that the forces also slashed the special sand bed that Lynch was given, the only such bed in the hospital (designed to prevent bed sores for patients suffering from serious burns) before sweeping out again. During the "raid", twelve doors were also kicked in and damaged, and a sterilized operating theatre was contaminated. No reports that the Iraqi hospital would be compensated for the damage were ever published. Doctors also claimed that Iraqi soldiers had left the hospital the morning before the rescue.[2]
    Jessica Lynch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    i spent the weekend in the south, and had the perverse pleasure of watching foxnews on the hotel's cable system.

    a couple of times per hour the following would appear on the screen.....

    "america has problems"

    which was immediately followed by...

    "but america is not the problem."

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    also, on the weekend they have 2 hours of financial programs which they refer to as 'the cost of freedom'.

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    what about the constant "Terror Alert" ticker ? is it still there ? still at "Elevated" whatever the fuck that means ?

    Faux News watchers are probably the most foolish and dillusional audience you could imagine to have for greedy network executives. They will buy anything.

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    Perhaps the reason why the US considers actors and journalists 'liberals' (I really hate the way the US can turn a positive adjective into an insult) is because they are educated. Maybe they see things for what they are.

    Charlton Heston - mmm, a liberal? Maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    what about the constant "Terror Alert" ticker ? is it still there ? still at "Elevated" whatever the fuck that means ?
    Yeah, what happened to those "Orange alerts" and "Yellow alerts?"


    Pretty hilarious now, thinking how stupid it was - and still is.

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    on the day i was watching (friday?) the terror alert was orange or 'elevated' and for airlines it was red or 'high'.

    what a load of crap.

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    in 2002 NY times reporter michael gordon 'reported' about the alleged threat posed by iraq, and he's at it again.

    gordon wrote the recent front page article regarding the tie between iranian arms and iraq...without the slightest hint of skepticism.

    Deadliest Bomb in Iraq Is Made by Iran, U.S. Says - New York Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    on the day i was watching (friday?) the terror alert was orange or 'elevated' and for airlines it was red or 'high'.
    What was the terror alert on the 10th of September 2001? - just curious.....

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    Associated Press Finally Admits Democrats Are Undermining War Efforts

    "Apart from legislation, Democrats have embarked on an effort to undermine public support for the war by holding numerous hearings"

    How did that ever get through editing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Associated Press Finally Admits Democrats Are Undermining War Efforts

    "Apart from legislation, Democrats have embarked on an effort to undermine public support for the war by holding numerous hearings"

    How did that ever get through editing?
    boner, that quote doesn't appear in the link you provided. it does, however, link to ... basically a blogger clearing house.

    why do you incessantly post the opinions of other people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    boner, that quote doesn't appear in the link you provided.
    What a surprise....

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Associated Press Finally Admits Democrats Are Undermining War Efforts

    "Apart from legislation, Democrats have embarked on an effort to undermine public support for the war by holding numerous hearings"

    How did that ever get through editing?
    boner, that quote doesn't appear in the link you provided. it does, however, link to ... basically a blogger clearing house.

    why do you incessantly post the opinions of other people?
    Well, because it's also the learned opinion of this poster?
    p.s. the suge is working!
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    what about the constant "Terror Alert" ticker ? is it still there ? still at "Elevated" whatever the fuck that means ?
    Propaganda to keep the gullible sheep constantly in fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    p.s. the suge is working!
    by 'suge' i assume you mean the escalation of the war in iraq.

    don't be shy boner....how do you know it is working?


    and how about addressing why the quote you provided doesn't appear in the link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    ....the suge is working!
    First,

    There is NO surge.

    The percentage of troops added to the total amoung already there, is not a "surge."

    The term surge is a political-media buzzword.


    Second,

    The troop number being added are too low to have any effect long term, Boon Me.

    Baghdad will likely be quiet for the next 2 or three months. The insurgents and militias members have faded away, and they will be adapting to the new tactics by the U.S.

    Expect more violence to being in about May.
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    The term surge is a political-media buzzword.
    deliberately used to avoid the term, 'escalation'.

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