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    Apparently Thailand is the one place Aussies should really avoid, although the US locks up a lot of Diggers (locks too many of all kinds of people IMO): Australian travellers face greatest arrest risk in the US, higher chance of death in Thailand | News.com.au

    Last year 111 Aussies died in Thailand, accounting for the largest number of deaths in one country, followed by The Philippines, 68, Greece, 50, and Indonesia 48 with 904 Aussies passing away all up.
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    Somehow the American stabbed to death in Krabi gets a mention in this article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Dunno, Davis. The nationality of the victim doesn't alter the severity of the crime, just gives it more publicity. Teenagers, punks. They probably won't hang. In Texas, well they probably would.
    You're probably correct. It's hard to get a rope around a teenager's neck - unless he executed a cop in cold blood. Now, the state gets to take care of these miserable fucks for the next 60 years or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    One good thing about Oklahoma is that it's a death penalty state - and they use it. I'm not trying to open up a death penalty thread, I know most non-US posters oppose it. But, if I've ever seen a case that screams for it........
    Got that right.

    A valid point here - some observers, trying to make political hay one way or another, are blaming the gun. If the goons had decided to run Mr. Lane down, would they have blamed the car? Probably not.

    Charming fellows, eh?



    Their confederate Michael Jones is charged with being an accessory after the fact. Apparently Jones was driving the car, while Luna pulled the trigger on a .22 caliber revolver.
    Chris Lane was in Duncan visiting his girlfriend. He went to college nearby:




    Local police say that the murderers were on a spree and planned on killing someone else later the same afternoon. They readily confessed to committing the murder “just for fun.” It’s not as though they were hard to spot. On their Facebook pages, they went out of their way to advertise that they were criminals:



    It may not be surprising that a 15-year-old and 16-year-old would have a shotgun and a revolver, but where in the world did they get all that cash? These appear to be $100 bills, again from Facebook. Evidently there was more criminality going on than has yet been reported:



    It is worth noting that the “N-word” figures in this case, too. If George Zimmerman had used it, he would have been convicted of murder. In this instance, it was James Edwards, in a tweet. It is ironic that, while the grisly details of the murder are related in full, the “N-word” is ostensibly so shocking that it must be blacked out:



    "What do you think the law should be? Should Lane be required to flee from the three cold-blooded would-be killers, hoping he can out-distance them before they shoot him again, or run him down with their car? Or should he be allowed to draw his P938 and defend himself?"

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    A Vine video reportedly shows Edwards playing with a rifle. This is the 15 year old murderer:

    Will Obama, Sharpton weigh in on thrill killing of white jogger? | Twitchy

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    Davis, why not send the twins to France same as you for an education? Its gotta be better than anywhere you could send them in the States.

    That said, no place is truly "safe," any more.

    Glad I don't have that decision to make. You and A.O. have a lot to think about in the next few years.

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    Definitely, carrying a pistol is sure-fire deterrence from getting shot in the back without warning by a psycho or three. FFS.

    As to using vehicles as a weapon, hit-and-runs are a huge problem in some parts of the US, and carrying a pistol won't really help with that, either. L.A.'s Bloody Hit-and-Run Epidemic - Page 1 - News - Los Angeles - LA Weekly In fact, without any witnesses around it might even be easier to get away with killing someone with vehicle than with a gun.

    This case does remind me a lot of this: James Herard Gets Nine Life Sentences, 125 Years, for Bloody Dunkin' Donuts Robbery - Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach - News - The Daily Pulp

    James Herard, a rumored Crips leader who describes himself as soulless, barks at judges, and reportedly speaks openly about going "human hunting," was sentenced today to nine life sentences and 125 additional years in jail for a brutal 2008 Dunkin' Donuts robbery that took place in Delray Beach.

    On July 29, Herard was convicted of robbing the beach town's coffee shop, shooting five people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    Davis, why not send the twins to France same as you for an education? Its gotta be better than anywhere you could send them in the States.

    That said, no place is truly "safe," any more.

    Glad I don't have that decision to make. You and A.O. have a lot to think about in the next few years.
    Yep. Lot to consider. Friend resident LOS sent his two daughters to uni in OZ, and was quite pleased with the result. US is far.........away. OZ much closer to here. We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    The US gun culture is totally OTT!
    fixed .

    and surprised you didn't post this in the reasons to have a gun thread

    more guns for ALL Americans , and the sooner the better .

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    Well, we've armed the Primary schools, so what next? Flamethrower Nikes?

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    It wasn’t a gun that killed Chris Lane for no particular reason so much as it was an ideology and a subculture, both exported from corrupted parts of the country into the otherwise decent town of Duncan, Oklahoma.
    Though most of his information is private, several pictures that are still available – at https://www.facebook.com/chancey.luna/about — show the tattooed Chancey flashing gang signs and drinking beer. His Facebook page also displays a red, yellow and green flag with the words Black Power inside it.

    And next to that is a picture of Africa, with the same color scheme– traditionally associated with Black liberation movements — that features an upraised, clenched black fist.
    Luna’s mother is white.

    The Facebook page belonging to accused killer James Edwards is less political, and more immersed in the music and drugs and sex and violence that dominate contemporary hip hop culture."

    Black mob violence in Oklahoma: The real story
    On Facebook, he called himself “Lilbuggy,” but his screen name was “blackcoon44.” On Twitter, he went by @JamesAKABug
    Both Facebook and Twitter pages belonging to Edwards are filled with direct references to violence, drugs, and admiration for the rappers who glorify the thug life. Especially the 17-year old rapper Chief Keef from Chicago. …
    Chief Keef is famous for relentless references to guns, violence, drugs and sex in his popular music videos.
    But most of the time, Edwards was making up his own lines: “With my niggas when it’s time to start taken life’s,” he posted on Twitter three days before the killing.
    As of now, James Edwards’s Facebook and Twitter pages are still up there.



    Chauncey Luna: Younger than Trayvon Martin.

    If Australians want to boycott something, start with the ghetto rap shit that spawns this sense violence. Can't imagine folks in OZ listen to that but who knows...




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    Wow! Jesse Jackson really goes out on a limb!



    Many are already blaming the gun that the teens allegedly used to kill Chris Lane, including members of the Australian government. Guns are inanimate objects.


    The “gun culture” didn’t kill Chris Lane, but the rap and gang culture may have played a prominent role.


    The PJ Tatler » ‘Bored?’ Teenage Murder Suspect James Edwards Appears to Be a Crip

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    Having seen a number of mug shots today, I doubt that the 'wigger' alleged white guy accomplice is totally white. When depicted next to the other two scum, his features look exactly the same, only a bit lighter. Not that it matters......just found it interesting.

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    Black on white attacks are 40 to 1.

    I am waiting for the blacks to come out, like in the Trayvon Martin case (where Martin attacked a guy and got shot).

    Blacks? You there?

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    Booner, why don't you go and explore the responsibility of Obama for this murder? Could he have sent drones? Or the marines task force stationed in Sicily? Enforce a gun ban in America? Sorry, just kidding. What difference at this point does it make? Why did Chris Lane have no gun of his own, and stood his ground? And where was Rickthai, he's waiting for this scenario to get to kill niggas.

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    nowt to do with Hollywood innit. ?

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    The media continues not noticing that Chris Lane was killed in a racially-motivated murder:

    And three days before what police call the indiscriminate shooting, the suspect, 15-year-old James Edwards Jr., tweeted, “With my n****s when it’s time to start taken life’s.” Back in April, he tweeted, “90% of white ppl (people) are nasty. #HATE THEM.”

    Check this out - Time Magazine, a magazine of the Politically Correct Goonsquad Left, calls the part of town Chris Lane ventured into "the grittier part of town."

    So now the Left is going to be blaming Chris Lane for jogging in the wrong part of town???

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    The black on black and black on white slaughter continues. MrG? Where art thou?
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    WWII vet, beaten by teens outside Eagles Lodge, dies

    Author: Ian Cull, KXLY4 Multimedia Journalist, ianc@kxly.com
    Rob Kauder, Internet Content Manager, robk@kxly.com
    Published On: Aug 22 2013 07:53:50 AM PDT Updated On: Aug 22 2013




    SPOKANE, Wash. - WWII veteran Delbert Belton survived being wounded in action during the Battle of Okinawa only to be beaten and left for dead by two teens at the Eagles Lodge in Spokane on Wednesday evening.

    Belton, 88, succumbed to his injuries Thursday morning at Sacred Heart Medical Center.

    Witnesses say Belton was in the parking lot of the Eagles Lodge at 6410 N. Lidgerwood, adjacent to the Eagles Ice-A-Rena, around 8 p.m. Wednesday when the two male suspects attacked him as he was about to head inside to play pool.
    Police responded with K-9s to track the suspects' scent but were not able to locate them.

    "It does appear random. He was in the parking lot, it appears he was assaulted in the parking lot and there was no indication that he would have known these people prior to the assault," Spokane Police Major crimes Detective Lieutenant Mark Griffiths said.

    Belton died from his injuries Thursday morning at Sacred Heart Medical Center.
    "Shorty," as he was known by his friends at the Eagles Lodge, served in the U.S. Army in the Pacific during WWII and was shot in the leg during the Battle of Okinawa. He went on to work at Kaiser Aluminum at the company's Trentwood plant for more than 30 years. Belton's wife passed away several years ago.

    He loved playing pool, even though he claimed he was no good at it and had been a member of the Eagles Lodge for the last four months. In addition to playing pool he loved working on cars.

    Shorty was Ted Denison's best friend of 23 years; the two played pool occasionally and worked on cars daily.

    "He was always there for me when I needed him," Denison said. "We'd joke back and forth. We were always having fun, some sort of fun."

    He was the kind of nice old man who'd become your friend in minutes.

    "Probably every time I come into town, he'd have a project for me to do," Denison said. "I thought of him more as a dad than I did a friend really."

    Now, with the suspects still at large and the Spokane Police Department working to track them down, Shorty's friends are hoping for justice.

    "I don't understand how somebody could do this. I really don't," Denison said.
    Spokane police are looking for two male suspects in the attack. They said the suspects are African Americans between 16 and 19 years old. One suspect was described as heavy set and wearing all black clothing. The other was described as being about 6 feet tall and 150 pounds. There was no description of what clothing the second suspect was wearing other than a silk do-rag.

    WWII vet, beaten by teens outside Eagles Lodge, dies | Spokane/E. WA - KXLY.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Black on white attacks are 40 to 1.

    I am waiting for the blacks to come out, like in the Trayvon Martin case (where Martin attacked a guy and got shot).

    Blacks? You there?
    Meanwhile, Ebony magazine is putting out a special “We are all Trayvon” issue with multiple covers featuring Black celebrities wearing hoodies. Because, racism...

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    ^ That's for sure, Boon Me. Many people have blinders on.
    E IN AMERICA

    Dead souls of a cultural revolution

    Pat Buchanan: 'Interracial violence is overwhelmingly black-on-white'

    Published: 14 hours ago Patrick J. Buchanan Pat Buchanan was twice a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination and the Reform Party's candidate in 2000. He is also a founder and editor of The American Conservative. Buchanan served three presidents in the White House, was a founding panelist of three national TV shows, and is the author of nine books. His


    Last Friday, Christopher Lane, a 22-year-old Australian here on a baseball scholarship, was shot and killed while jogging in Duncan, Okla., population 23,000. He died where he fell.


    Police have three suspects, two black and one white. The former said they were bored and decided to shoot Lane for “the fun of it.”




    As Lane was white and the shooter black, racism has surfaced as a motive. Thursday came reports that killing a white man may have been an initiation rite for the black teens in joining some offshoot of the Crips or Bloods.


    What happened in Oklahoma and the reaction, or lack of reaction to it, tells us much about America in 2013, not much of it good.


    Teenagers who can shoot and kill a man out of summertime boredom are moral barbarians, dead souls.


    But who created these monsters? Where did they come from? Surely one explanation lies in the fact that the old conscience-forming and character-forming institutions – home, church, school and a moral and healthy culture fortifying basic truths – have collapsed. And the community hardest hit is Black America.
    Black mobs routinely terrorize cities across the country, but the media and government are silent. Read the detailed account of rampant racial crime in “White Girl Bleed a Lot: The Return of Race Riots to America”

    If we go back to the end of World War II, 90 percent of black families consisted of a mother and father and children raised and disciplined by their parents. The churches to which these families went on Sundays were stronger. Black schools may have been largely segregated, but they were also the transmission belts of patriotism and traditional values rooted in biblical truths and a Christian faith.
    Though such schools graduated hardworking, law-abiding and productive citizens, today they would be closed as unconstitutional.


    Indeed, all of those character- and conscience-forming institutions of yesterday are in an advanced state of decline today.


    Seventy-three percent of black kids are born to single moms. Black kids who make it to 12th grade may often be found reading at seventh-, eighth- or ninth-grade levels. In some cities the black dropout rate can hit as high as 50 percent.
    Drugs are readily available. And among black males ages 18 to 29, in urban areas, often a third are in prison or jail, or on probation or parole, or walking around with a criminal record.


    Where do the kids get their ideas of right and wrong, good and evil? In homes where the father is absent and the TV is always on. From radios tuned in to rap and hip-hop. From films where Hollywood values prevail and the shooting never stops. From street gangs that sometimes form the only families these kids have ever known.


    Still, crime has fallen since 1990, we are told.
    And so it has. But that is only because the baby boomers, the largest population cohort in our history, passed out of the high-crime age group a quarter of a century ago, and because the jail and prison population in America has tripled.
    Order Pat Buchanan’s brilliant and prescient books at WND’s Superstore.

    What kind of leadership do we see today in Black America?
    What can be said for an NAACP that was lately demanding a Justice Department investigation of a rodeo clown running around a bull ring in rural Missouri in an Obama mask, but cannot find its voice to address a black-on-white atrocity in Middle America?


    When Trayvon Martin was shot to death in a murky incident in Sanford, Fla., Jesse Jackson rushed there to declare: “Blacks are under attack. … Killing us is big business.” Trayvon was “shot down in cold blood by a vigilante … murdered and martyred.

    Entire: Dead souls of a cultural revolution

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    The question being asked now is how responsible is Obama for the Chris Lane Murder? After all, he inflamed the Zimmerman case calling little Trayvon a son of his own so now, that's become a battle cry for these punks and hoods who want to exact revenge on 'Whitey'.

    "Two weeks after the Martin story surfaced, President Obama had the chance to defuse tensions. "Obviously this is a tragedy," said Obama solemnly in response to a planted question. After some empty bromides about everyone pulling together and the like, the president cut to the chase: "But my main message is to the parents of Trayvon--If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."

    Articles: How Responsible Is Obama for the Oklahoma Killing?

    We still haven't heard from Obama on Chris Lane's Murder - too busy on the golf course as usual..
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    CNN Interviews Sister of Killer Who Shot Chris Lane:



    "Rachel Padilla is the sister of James Edwards, the one who has posted inflammatory tweets about hating and punching white people, as well as being ready to start “taking life’s”[sic]. He also posed with a gun and posted pictures of a stash of thousands of dollars.

    Padilla says she never knew, never looked at any of the things he tweeted or put on his Facebook. She knew he got in trouble with “fighting” and hung with “older guys” who were in gangs, but didn’t know that he was in a gang."

    Looks like that Food Stamp Diet feeds well...

    Here she is in all her glory...


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    Prosecutor: No race motive in shooting of Australian in Oklahoma | The Raw Story


    WASHINGTON — US prosecutors handling the case of two black teenagers accused of shooting
    dead a white Australian baseball player said Friday there was no evidence to suggest the killing
    was racially-motivated.


    The murder of Chris Lane, 22, in the small Oklahoma town of Duncan has triggered a race debate
    in America after it emerged that one of the victim’s alleged killers had posted racist comments on
    Twitter earlier this year.

    Several commentators have questioned why authorities had not pressed to have hate crime
    charges added to the indictment of James Edwards, 15, and Chancey Luna, 16, who are both
    charged with murder.

    However Stephens County District Attorney Jason Hicks said while authorities were aware of
    the comments made by Edwards, there was not enough evidence to pursue extra charges.

    “At this point, the evidence does not support the theory that Christopher Lane was targeted
    based upon his race or nationality,” Hicks said in a statement.

    “The evidence is insufficient to establish that race was the primary motive in the murder of
    Christopher Lane.”

    In separate posts on Twitter earlier this year, Edwards spoke of his “hatred” of white people.

    “90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM,” read one tweet.
    In another post Edwards claimed to have assaulted several “woods” — a derogatory slang
    term for white people — following the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the killing of black
    teenager Trayvon Martin in Florida.

    Hicks later reiterated to CNN that he did not believe the crime was racially motivated. He noted
    that Luna came from a mixed race family, and that the third teenager arrested with the duo,
    17-year-old Michael Dewayne Jones, was white.

    “I have nothing in my files, paperwork or audio recordings that suggest that Christopher Lane
    was killed because of his race or nationality,” Hicks said on CNN.
    Police have said Edwards and Luna shot Lane because they were “bored.”

    “They were bored and just wanted to see someone die,” Duncan police chief Danny Ford told US media.

    Hicks agreed that Ford’s explanation appeared to be the most likely.

    “I tend to think that the police chief’s comments, that is they did it out of boredom are probably
    accurate,” Hicks said.

    Both Edwards and Luna were charged with first degree murder, a crime punishable by death in
    Oklahoma.

    Jones has been charged with use of a vehicle in the discharge of a weapon and acting as an
    accessory after the fact.




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    The news media is looking for racial stories. Plenty of kids get murdered weekly with no coverage.

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    Have serious doubts about that...

    ...that DA doesn't want a race war on his hands if he calls it 'racially motivated'. Probably got a call from the White House to watch his step...

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    White people have abused and murdered more blacks than the opposite. The true sickos of the US are white people not all of course but many. Those who say there is no racism and that the past is the past, etc. These scum are the ones who are perpetuating the crime. These people are accomplices to the murder like the one below. At the time of this man's death, the right wingers in America were just the same as they are today. It happened in Texas. Is that a surprise?


    Three white men from Texas dragged James Byrd Jr., a black man, for three miles behind a pick-up truck along an asphalt road. Byrd, who remained conscious throughout most of the ordeal, was killed when his body hit the edge of a culvert, severing his right arm and head. The murderers drove on for another mile before dumping his torso in front of an African-American cemetery in Jasper.


    Murder of James Byrd, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.


    I bet events like these encourage racists to move the Texas, the most racist and criminal state in the nation these days.

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    You might have a stronger case booner if a white wasn't driving the car, and supplied the weapon.

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