Thread: Racism. Can it be justified? I think so.

Originally Posted by rovingdave

Hi gentlemen.

I'm asking you. When you look at a black person, do think "Fucking nigger! I'd shoot him if i could get away with it." Or, "Fucking Arab, he's not even worth a bullet."

That's what i think, when i see them.

That's what i'm asking you to answer honestly.

No, never.

Originally Posted by rovingdave

C'mon now. Steady man, Steady. Yes, well, perhaps my attitude may not be be perfect..........ah, but c',mon now! We can still be friends eh????

I doubt it as I am black

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by RickThai

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

What would be the case of white prejudice towards white?

Let's see . . . the Germans killed millions of Gypsies (along with the Jews) during the 1940's. I would think that indicates a certain prejudice.

RickThai

Technically, Romani ethnic aren't considered of a European blood-line.
They ain't white, brother.


Santi.
Jeff

I didn't realize "European blood-line" was a race. I thought the race was Caucasian?

Santi,

RickThai

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by rovingdave

C'mon now. Steady man, Steady. Yes, well, perhaps my attitude may not be be perfect..........ah, but c',mon now! We can still be friends eh????

I doubt it as I am black

Somehow I got the feeling a long time ago that both you and MrG are black (but I didn't think it important to any of the posts so I never asked).

RickThai

Originally Posted by Rainfall

Originally Posted by RickThai

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

What would be the case of white prejudice towards white?

Let's see . . . the Germans killed millions of Gypsies (along with the Jews) during the 1940's. I would think that indicates a certain prejudice.

RickThai

That's a statement by a man who claims university degrees 'in Computer Science with a minor in Electronic Engineering'. American universities must be shit, producing illiterates like this. Doesn't know where the Gypsies come from, their numbers, or how many died in the camps. Rick, you make Thais look smart in comparison.

And you hold what degrees?

Santi,

RickThai

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by RickThai

The forum was about race, not individual variation within race. Do you wish you had been born of a different race? RickThai

The fact that a scientific definition of race has never been established here--let alone an agreed upon TD definition of race--your question...this whole thread, in fact, is about whatever fantasy you grew up with about the subject, about your own race or anybody elses.

Why don't you argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? It makes about as much sense.

During my calculus classes "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" made perfect sense (when helping understand integration).

As far as TD threads, well like any forum it is 98% opinion with (occasionally) a few selected facts thrown into the mix.

I still believe it is an inarguable fact that certain groups of peoples evolved with common sets of physiological (and perhaps psychological) features that differentiated them from other groups of peoples.

Call it "race" or whatever you choose to describe these groups of peoples. The hypothesis of evolutionary adaptation seems to be the most "scientific" rationale as to how and why that has occurred.

That doesn't mean one group of people (i.e. race) is better than another group; just that their are differences. To pretend there are not any differences is the "fantasy" to my way of thinking.

As human's gain more and more control over their environment, and due to the increasing ease of interracial sex; racial differences will probably become less obvious, and society will become more homogeneous (although extreme polarization due to political and religious beliefs seem to be becoming more of a factor in adverse human relations than ever before).

Still everyone is entitled to their opinions and beliefs.

Santi,

RickThai

Originally Posted by RickThai

Still everyone is entitled to their opinions and beliefs.

Hmmm... not entirely true really, is it?

Racism is important to Blue, it's what makes his meaningless, miserable life worth living.

Yes that's true harry , I would hate to think of a world without the European master race to drive it forward .

Well, it was the white race which has contributed most to the progress of humanity. In politics it invented democracy, capitalism, socialism, communism, fascism. Atheism. It has been the leader in science and technology for ages, and in the arts like music, painting, theatre, film, sculpture, in literature, and architecture, and engineering. Just every single device we use was invented by the white man, the steam engine, the electric motor, the combustion engine, jet and rocket engine, car, bike, bicycle, locomotive, plane, fridge, aircon, microwave, tape recorder, record player, mp3, radio, tv, computer, internet. The nuke, the nucular reactor, space exploration. Whatever. The last significant invention by someone else but a white man was gun powder, China, about 1,000 years ago. So don't fucking tell me Africans or Asians are equal. They didn't manage to get out of the dark ages on their own, they didn't create the conditions for it on their own.

^And now that all these lesser races are finding their way out of the darkness by following the White light, I suppose, if the differences are really somehow in the genes, then Whitey will continue to lead the way forever?

This would more or less have to follow.

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Originally Posted by RickThai

the places with huge populations India, China, Arab Africa, black Africa , Indonesia , have virtually zero interracial mixing ,

FFS. What utter nonsense.

Originally Posted by Rainfall

Well, it was the white race which has contributed most to the progress of humanity. In politics it invented democracy, capitalism, socialism, communism, fascism. Atheism. It has been the leader in science and technology for ages, and in the arts like music, painting, theatre, film, sculpture, in literature, and architecture, and engineering. Just every single device we use was invented by the white man, the steam engine, the electric motor, the combustion engine, jet and rocket engine, car, bike, bicycle, locomotive, plane, fridge, aircon, microwave, tape recorder, record player, mp3, radio, tv, computer, internet. The nuke, the nucular reactor, space exploration. Whatever. The last significant invention by someone else but a white man was gun powder, China, about 1,000 years ago. So don't fucking tell me Africans or Asians are equal. They didn't manage to get out of the dark ages on their own, they didn't create the conditions for it on their own.

You've a lot to learn yet.....

Originally Posted by Rainfall

Well, it was the white race which has contributed most to the progress of humanity. In politics it invented democracy, capitalism, socialism, communism, fascism. Atheism. It has been the leader in science and technology for ages, and in the arts like music, painting, theatre, film, sculpture, in literature, and architecture, and engineering.

You seem to live in a very tightly wrapped world.
"White" people had nothing to do with the invention of mathmatics (ancient Sumerians) without which, all those lovely gadgets could not have come about.

Painting, sculpture, literature, architecture, engineering--are you forgetting all the like accomplishments from all over the globe. Just because they're not to your taste doesn't make them inferior.

If all those superior "white" Europeans, especially those in the Catholic heirarchy, were so smart, why did they hold back the advancement of science for a thousand years and keep their so-called civilization in the dark ages? Your logic, such as it is, is very flawed.

If the "invention" of fascism is meant to be an accomplishment of the "white race", then surely the "invention" of the first effective authoritarian-bureaucratic state in China (while the proto-fascists were still running around in the woods getting their asses handed to them by the Romans) must count for something in the "Superiority Stakes".

Logic?

Originally Posted by rovingdave

Originally Posted by RickThai

Still everyone is entitled to their opinions and beliefs.

Hmmm... not entirely true really, is it?

I don't know where people get this sense of entitlement.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by rovingdave

Originally Posted by RickThai

Still everyone is entitled to their opinions and beliefs.

Hmmm... not entirely true really, is it?

I don't know where people get this sense of entitlement.

More of a conditioned aspect, less an entitlement [whatever the fuck that is].

Hi,

Many arguements, for and against. I woudn't dream of using another's country to back up my own thoughts, so i'll use only my own. Mister sh*g nasty i am not from the USA i am from Scotland (which i presume are about as far apart as you have ever been)

Start searching. Google or whatever. Let's take Thailand. Not a bad place as far as places go, however, still backward.

5 million people in Scotland. 65 million people in Thailand. Go online, hit INVENTIONS; hit CHARITIES (i like this one ), hit POLICING, ask the likes of Mugabwe or Mubarak some views, ask all these chaps how nice it is to live in the dark ages. Ask Pol Pot, ask Idi Amin. I'd like to think we got rid of our monsters. They are still there, and Africa seem proud to host them. Put another pound in the bucket.

I spent years and years in Africa. I've seen what happens. Same in North Africa with the Arabs. Rub them out. Oh dear, what a shame, never-mind.

Originally Posted by mao say dung

^And now that all these lesser races are finding their way out of the darkness by following the White light, I suppose, if the differences are really somehow in the genes, then Whitey will continue to lead the way forever?

This would more or less have to follow.

The differences aren't in the genes, but in the heads. Yes, whitey will continue to lead for this very reason.

Originally Posted by MrG

"white" Europeans, especially those in the Catholic heirarchy, were so smart, why did they hold back the advancement of science for a thousand years and keep their so-called civilization in the dark ages?

Well , perhaps it's because they didn't

http://listverse.com/2008/06/09/top-...were-not-dark/

I believe that we can safely say that the period of man’s history from 476 AD to 1000 AD is the most maligned of all.
This period, known to historians as the Early Middle Ages, is still referred to by most laymen as the Dark Ages. In fact the term “dark ages” is almost as ancient as the period itself – it was coined in the 1330s by Petrarch, the Italian scholar, to refer to the decline of Latin literature.
It was later taken by the protestant reformers (16th century) and then the members of the Englightenment (18th century) as a derogatory term with much broader implications, because they saw their own “enlightenment” as absent from the earlier period. Hardly a fair judgement on the past. Fortunately for modern students of history, the term is now officially known as the Early Middle Ages – a name which has no connotations at all. So, having given you the background on the terms, here are reasons that the dark ages were, in fact, a period of great progress and light.

Universities Are Born
Scientific Foundations Laid
Carolingian Renaissance
Byzantine Golden Age
Art and Architecture
Law Becomes Fair
Agricultural Boom

or just google - were the dark ages really dark

Originally Posted by MrG

"White" people had nothing to do with the invention of mathmatics (ancient Sumerians

Maths was universally invented , they used it to get Stonehenge up .
Anyway the Sumerians were probably white , as they has lots of Neanderthal blood in them.

Originally Posted by Rainfall

The differences aren't in the genes, but in the heads. Yes, whitey will continue to lead for this very reason.

You are proposing that the heads are different because of the genes, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about "race" and "whitey".

You really ought to try and own your own specious arguments.

Originally Posted by Rainfall

it was the white race which has contributed most to the progress of humanity.

I think racism can only be justified if you are Asian. I mean, just look above at the ignorance, lack of dignity and historical consciousness of some recently graduated troglodyte that has the color of something that crawled from under a log, and has no knowledge or appreciation of his forebears and betters.

Originally Posted by mao say dung

Originally Posted by Rainfall

The differences aren't in the genes, but in the heads. Yes, whitey will continue to lead for this very reason.

You are proposing that the heads are different because of the genes, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about "race" and "whitey".

You really ought to try and own your own specious arguments.

You are talking gibberish.

I think racial equality is achieved when the Asian and African middle class can buy property on the Champs-Elysees, and go for a sex holiday to the beaches of the Baltic Sea.

What is it like when you pick up a girl in a bar in Thailand or Ghana for a night of sex, do you think of racial equality, or do you enjoy that the differences in culture and achievements provide you another warm body for cheap? Why do you feel you have to compensate by expressing respect for Asians and Africans?