Thread: Thailand: Sex scandal in army

Originally Posted by taxexile

The woman's husband brought her to have sex with him and his fellow conscripts and videotaped the act, the source quoted the conscript as saying.

Gen Thanongsak said it would be difficult to hold anyone accountable since this was a personal matter.

sounds like the whole thing was consensual, the soldier is married to a bit of a goer and she was up for a regimental spitroast

A surprisingly common fantasy for many women...although it doesn't get talked about much.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Some photos from Thai News sources....maybe this helps with determining what transpired?

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^What he said......plus a solid level of disgust at the statement that an autistic girl should not have given in while being raped by SIX soldiers. Wrong in about every way possible.

Maybe judgment should have been reserved until more was known about the case. At no point was rape discussed. At best, early reports, from the very people that were sensationalizing this, were the soldiers may have taken advantage of an autistic woman.

I do wonder where the autistic angle came from.

TH

To me, 'taking advantage' of an 'autistic woman' while engaging in 'group sex' as stated in the original article implies non-consensual sex with the handicapped, which equates to rape. If I responded incorrectly to an inaccurate newspaper report, take it up with them.

you have to stand in awe of the spin machine as evidenced by the progression of this thread .

She looks happy enough with the proceedings.

Probably just some 250b rural karaoke girl happy to get 150b off 6 guys.

Originally Posted by The Master Cool

She looks happy enough with the proceedings.

Probably just some 250b rural karaoke girl happy to get 150b off 6 guys.

Quite possible. When I was a Drill Sergeant, one of the cooks was caught bringing his wife into one of the barracks at night where she was taking on all comers for $10 a throw. She wasn't autistic, just inbred Kentucky trailer trash, which is probably worse.

Originally Posted by Mid

you have to stand in awe of the spin machine as evidenced by the progression of this thread .

You sound like you'd prefer it if she was an autistic being raped, as compared to a married woman doing a bit of swinging while her husband films it.

Army chief denies using word 'autism' | Bangkok Post: news

Army chief denies using word 'autism'

• Published: 17/05/2012 at 12:00 AM
• Newspaper section: News

Army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha has denied saying that a woman in photos posted on the internet engaging in group sex with soldiers was autistic.

Gen Prayuth yesterday insisted he never mentioned the word "autism" when referring to the woman in the controversial photos. Those who told the media he made such a remark might have obtained the wrong information.

"I am not the type of person who blames women. I never blamed the woman [in the photos]. There was also speculation that the incident might not have been a case of rape. I blame no one. We have to respect women," said the army chief.

He was responding to reports that he told a meeting with senior officers that an investigation into photos showing six conscripts having group sex with a woman had revealed she was autistic.

The army investigation found two sets of pictures totalling 31 photos were released on the internet. One set showed six soldiers having sex with a woman in an office while the other set showed a group of three soldiers having sex with another woman in a private room.

Gen Prayuth said any soldiers found to have engaged in sexual acts with the women in the photos would be punished. The 31 photos showed sex acts had been performed at several locations, and some were not at military venues, he said.

Only one or two soldiers have been located. As several soldiers were involved, the investigation would continue.

Assistant army chief Gen Thanongsak Apirakyothin, head of the army's investigation panel, said it was possible the photos might have been the work of a gang wanting to make porn movies.

"The gang might not have had much money as it could afford to pay for only one female performer. Then it asked soldiers to perform," he said.

The gang might not have had much money as it could afford to pay for only one female performer. Then it asked soldiers to perform,"

such twisted logic could only have come from a thai in a position of authority.

Originally Posted by pickel

Originally Posted by Mid

you have to stand in awe of the spin machine as evidenced by the progression of this thread .

You sound like you'd prefer it if she was an autistic being raped, as compared to a married woman doing a bit of swinging while her husband films it.

interesting observation , indeed the majority DO prefer the married woman swinging version .

I would be happy with the truth .

Thai-ASEAN News Network - Sex Clip Ruled Out as Plot against Army



Sex Clip Ruled Out as Plot against Army

UPDATE : 17 May 2012

The supreme commander says he does not see the barrack sex clip scandal as a smear campaign against the army.

Supreme Commander General Thanasak Patimapakorn said he did not believe the video clip of soldiers having sexual intercourse with a woman at a place believed to be a military barrack was a plot to discredit the army.

Thanasak noted many people could have been involved in the scandal as the incident was intentionally filmed and then publicized on the internet.

He said he still had no knowledge about details of the arson attack on a roadside resthouse at a red-shirt village in Songkhla.

Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan, also a red-shirt leader, said the opening of more red-shirt villages nationwide would be beneficial to the country and help prevent vote-buying.

Secretary General of the Southern Border Provinces Administration Center, Police Colonel Tawee Sodsong, said the opening of red-shirt villages in the South needs clarification as the region is a sensitive area with unique cultures and traditions.

He added any activities in the area should proceed under advices from security-related agencies.

Originally Posted by Mid

indeed the majority DO prefer the married woman swinging version . I would be happy with the truth .

Neither one of us knows the truth. I would hope it's true she wasn't raped. Wouldn't you? But, a picture's worth a thousand words, and she happens to be smiling in the ones posted.

Looks like they've been looking at too much Japanese porn to me.

On TNN tonight - a video of naked dancing girl(s) performing on stage with a fully dressed man in combats.

Not sure of the location and what explanation a senior army officer was offering when quizzed over the incident.

had a pic posted to my face book!

Originally Posted by Thaihome

I do wonder where the autistic angle came from.

TH

She is good at Maths?

^ Jaysus, that naked guy's got a very long, thick, odd looking penis.

I'm guessing condoms fit him like a glove.

Originally Posted by Mid

and by restricted and repetitive behavior.

that accounts for why there were 6 of them

Originally Posted by taxexile

that she was a willing accomplice or she was raped?

depends on her mental state

http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/o...-know-keep-mum

MY TWO SATANGS

Army sex pics - if you don't know, keep mum

• Published: 19/05/2012 at 03:49 AM
• Newspaper section: News

In a country such as Thailand where the military holds more power and carries more influence than deemed appropriate by supporters of Western-style democracies, should its commanders be schooled in the basics of common sense?


Third Army chief Charnchainarong Thanaroon tells new conscripts what is expected of them in Phitsanulok on Thursday. His talk came amid a sex scandal involving six soldiers and a woman, which army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha, inset, said may have been a case of ‘‘mutual consent’’.

Should an effort be made with men who hold the power to wage wars to educate them about public relations? What with all the submarines that need buying, it must be difficult to remember what the right thing to say in public is and when you should really just keep your mouth shut.

Perhaps such men, soldiers, do not care for the subtleties of public speech. They are warriors, they do not talk, they get things done.

But what happens when the top commander of the armed forces is forced into a corner? Not with bullets and bombs but with words and accusations. How is such a man expected to fight his way out of such a situation?

With a lot of pauses, tripping over words and silly statements, that's how.

I am of course referring to army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha's verbal disaster concerning 31 pictures in two sets of photographs showing a woman engaging in sexual acts with multiple male partners.

In his initial statement Gen Prayuth claimed that the photos did not depict rape. No doubt the army chief was basing this conclusion on hard facts brought about by a thorough investigation into the matter, as can be ascertained by his quotes in the Bangkok Post on Tuesday.

He said it "might have been a case of mutual consent". That he was "not sure what the woman was thinking". Later he added that "I don't know but the soldiers did the wrong thing. I don't know if this is a plot to discredit the army."

That's a lot of I don't knows and I'm not sure for someone who is willing to go on public record and say that these photos were not of a rape.

Later Gen Prayuth made the claim that the photos may have been taken by a gang wanting to make porn movies for sale on the internet. Once again he gave no evidence to back these claims, although presumably he thinks that people who surf the internet for porn like grainy jpegs of hard to see sexual acts taken with mobile phones.

Now let's be clear here, I am not saying that he was in any way wrong. It is quite possible that the woman in the two sets of photos was of sound mind and gave her consent to be photographed with multiple partners. Anyone who thinks it's not possible is naive.

But defending your position without any evidence is like trying to hold a fort against invading forces when you don't have any ammunition and reinforcements that can't come to your relief. Or something like that, I've never been in the army myself although I did watch Michael Caine in Zulu once.

Forget military coups, inappropriate use of force and ridiculous military spending, if there was ever a reason why the Thai military should take more of a backseat role, this is it.

Just as a quick quiz, how many people know who the head of the US military is? I don't mean the president, he's the Commander-in-Chief. Who is the actual day-to-day head of the military? I'll pause while you think about it, and no cheating with Google.

After much searching and discussions with several Americans I believe the answer is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey, but I'm not 100% sure that I'm right.

My point is, the head of the most powerful military force in the world manages to keep himself out of the public eye. He is never quoted as saying anything stupid, because not many people even knows his name. And that is how it should be.

But this is Thailand, a country where having "big face" is more important than having a properly functional military whose power is carefully controlled by a civilian government. In our fledgling democracy where every would-be leader is a potential autocrat, the army watches over and protects us.

But somebody needs to watch the watchmen. Somebody needs to ensure that the army chief does not casually dismiss a potential rape case without evidence, offend women's rights groups and create silly stories about internet porn empires.

The military needs a crack team of PR Seals to say "hey, in general the public doesn't like women being taken advantage of sexually. If soldiers are involved, that could look bad for the army. We need to reassure the public that we are taking this matter seriously. That those involved will be punished and that it will never happen again."

Is it scary that the army chief needs someone to tell him that?

Arglit Boonyai