Thread: 'Getting Out' - Your Guide to Leaving America

Now that so many basic rights including habeas corpus and the right NOT to be tortured while interrogated, have been deemed unnecessary in the US, more Americans than ever have been thinking of leaving while they still can. 'Getting Out' - Your Guide to Leaving America provides info. for all potential expats; where to go, how to get there, and how to live best outside the US. Author Mark Ehrman breaks down the top 50 expat countries and offers true-life tales from American expatriates worldwide, documenting their experiences and compiling all the best tricks to help the process go as smoothly as possible. http://processmediainc.com/press/mini_sites/getting_out/



Why is it that white people with a few bucks are known as expats but poor black people are immigrants?

Think in one hand and shit in the other ... that's all they'll do is think. It would be nice to hear a giant sucking sound as a few million tucked their tails between their legs and fled ... more room for more immigrants.

Hmm, so it appears about half of the US population share the same so-called "anti-American" sentiments as the rest of the world.
Odd that...

Immigrants are bad for the U.S. economy because they tend to pay cash or send it back home.

Originally Posted by stroller

Hmm, so it appears about half of the US population share the same so-called "anti-American" sentiments as the rest of the world.
Odd that...

All Headline News - President Bush's Approval Rating Up "Significantly" In New Poll - October 24, 2006

"His latest average still rates as the third worst of his presidency and only ranks in the 12th percentile of all presidential quarters since the Truman presidency, placing 214th out of the 244 quarters for which Gallup has data."




This is a clothing label from a small American company that sells their product in France. Here's the translation of the French part of the label.

Wash with warm water.
Use mild soap.
Dry flat.
Do not use bleach.
Do not dry in the dryer.
Do not iron.
We are sorry that Our President is an idiot.
We did not vote for him.

Originally Posted by surasak

Immigrants are bad for the U.S. economy because they tend to pay cash or send it back home.

Isn't it the case that America is a land of immigrants, the original inhabitants having been wiped out or sent to live in the Nevada dessert by the US cavalry.

IMO, immigrants should be made to pay for all the costs they create for the American taxpayers (health care, education for their children, crime, etc.) before being allowed to send money home.

I for one am not looking to leave my homeland! I mean, why would I want to....dah!

Originally Posted by Roxy

Originally Posted by surasak

Immigrants are bad for the U.S. economy because they tend to pay cash or send it back home.

Isn't it the case that America is a land of immigrants, the original inhabitants having been wiped out or sent to live in the Nevada dessert by the US cavalry.

IMO, immigrants should be made to pay for all the costs they create for the American taxpayers (health care, education for their children, crime, etc.) before being allowed to send money home.

If you knew anything about legal immigration you would know that they do.

^ How does one go about legally emmigrating to the USA thesedays?

What nationality are you, Roxy?

What's all the interest in US internal affairs, if you don't mind me asking?

^ I am of dual nationality as it happens. And no, one of them is not Thai, thank goodness.

Affairs in general interest me, especially if they have or will have a direct impact on me either now or in the future.

Originally Posted by Roxy

^ How does one go about legally emmigrating to the USA thesedays?

Get a visa.

Originally Posted by surasak

Originally Posted by Roxy

^ How does one go about legally emmigrating to the USA thesedays?

Get a visa.

Do you have any idea just how many visas were issued in this category last year?

If a person is here legally then they can file form I-485:

Form I-485, Application To Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status

The key is to get here legally.

^ I didn't think you'd know.

Check the State Department's visa bulletin.

The insinuation is that immigrants cost the government money. That's horseshit that ended in 1996. When I got my wife a visa I had to sign a legal document guaranteeing I would pay the government back if she ever received any government benefit for a period of 10 years. Did you know, for example, that for 5 years my wife cannot get any form of government assistance or until she's worked 40 quarters of credited work? Considering that I've paid taxes for 20 years is that fair to me?

Here you go:

http://travel.state.gov/pdf/FY05tableI.pdf

Originally Posted by surasak

The insinuation is that immigrants cost the government money. That's horseshit that ended in 1996. When I got my wife a visa I had to sign a legal document guaranteeing I would pay the government back if she ever received any government benefit for a period of 10 years. Did you know, for example, that for 5 years my wife cannot get any form of government assistance or until she's worked 40 quarters of credited work? Considering that I've paid taxes for 20 years is that fair to me?

That all rather depends upon how much tax you actually paid, I'm not privvy to such information. It may not have been much at all if you were employed as a grocery store clerk, now would it?

It's irrelevent because the government is off the hook. I think it's a disgrace that if my wife, myself, and my son were in a horrible traffic collision that the hospital legally could not help my wife unless it were a life and death situation.

So, what about the deficit? If you think immigrants should stop sending money home should American citizens stop having vacations until the debt is paid off?

If you want to target illegal immigrants then be my guest. Legal immigrants help far more than they could hurt.

Originally Posted by surasak

I think it's a disgrace that if my wife, myself, and my son were in a horrible traffic collision that the hospital legally could not help my wife unless it were a life and death situation.

You have my sympathy for what it's worth.

Many immigrants take low paying jobs...which is why some will be a 'burden.' But is it their fault, or, is it the fault of a society unwilling to let them be equal? America has a long history of being afraid of or downright hostile towards foreigners. Is it because the citizen doesn't want the shit job? In contrast many of the engineers at Intel, Microsoft, etc. are foreign because too many unqualified people are being produced by the horrible education system here. Were it not for this ability to hire foreign workers economic competitiveness would decline even further.

The issue of immigration is far more complex than it appears.

Originally Posted by stroller

Hmm, so it appears about half of the US population share the same so-called "anti-American" sentiments as the rest of the world.
Odd that...

Stroller please do not be mis-lead. In spite of having many un-happy people and many problems, most Americans believe that the American way is the best in spite of it's shortcommings and stand solidly together.

Originally Posted by ceburat

In spite of having many un-happy people and many problems, most Americans believe that the American way is the best

Isn't that part of America's problem?

LMAO.