| Actually smeg i can see how it might not be to your tastes but your report completely misrepresents the place,
i'll state first and foremost that ONE of the owners is a personal friend of mine so i may be view askew so to speak
the seating you're right.its a bit loud isn't it. as for sofa's etc well its not a lounge or gentlemans club nor some pretty metrosexual gay pick up place
as for the beer, why buy chang it tastes like piss, the guiness and particularly the kilkenny are good here and reasonably priced by bkk standards 160/170 respectively
staff are usually very friendly, i'm not calling you a liar but i've been here quite a lot recently and they leave you alone to enjoy the company of the people you go with, usually attentive and accurate
the customers, at the weekends a bit too many of the soi 4 wideos but since i meet my friends there and generally go in a group and not as billy no mates it doesent bother me in the slightest
sitting upstairs, why bother, if you want to sit alone in your room stay at home
one of the owners is a beer bellied older gentleman, there are a few of them about you know, the extended thai family you mention happen to be the staff and the local constabulary, boss socializing with staff shock horror. as for prefering the company of thais well i wouldnt know but i'd say
statement sweeping generalization in no fucking particular order
going out of business in the uk, these places are called locals, there are loads of them in the uk, some good, some shit, some open for 100's of years
cheap charlies, whats the point unless you are a cheap charlie.
if you dont like it fine, dont go back, you're peroggative. its not a tourist place really. its not a whore bar but IMHO its a more reasonably priced bulls head with more ambience if a bit shoddier
hope this provides some balance
the owner is a nice guy who makes it a point to greet people
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